At long last, I’ve finalized our complete LoHud weight class rankings for both Division 1 and Division 2. With the Super 16 and Rockland County Championships set for this weekend, followed by sectional qualifiers the following weekend, these rankings should serve as a great reference for sectionals. The idea is that if you look back at these after sectionals are completed on Feb. 12 at Pace University, these are the names that should be making it to the podium.
Before I give you the rankings, I wanted to post a few ground rules to give everyone an idea of how I put these together.
- As I’ve been doing for the past two seasons, I picked the top five in each weight class from D1, and the top three in D2. I’ve also added names of wrestlers who just missed the cut in my notes, which follow the rankings from each weight class.
- I do take into consideration past performances (such as previous section titles, section placers, etc.), but I put more stock into how a wrestler has performed this season. Quality wins, performance at competitive tourneys, overall record, pin percentage, difficulty of schedule and head-to-head are all taken into consideration.
- A wrestler cannot be ranked directly ahead of another wrestler who he has a losing record against this season. For example, if Wrestler A is ranked third and Wrestler B is ranked fourth, but Wrestler B beat Wrestler A this season, I would flop them. But if Wrestler A was ranked second due to a more impressive overall performance, and Wrestler B was ranked fourth with a win over Wrestler A, I would leave them as is.
- If two wrestlers split, I give preference to whichever won the more recent meeting UNLESS the other wrestler’s body of work is obviously stronger.
- I will reference the Eastern States Classic tournament quite a bit in these rankings. I abbreviated it as “ESC.”
- Whenever I reference a head-to-head meeting, it is from this season, unless specified otherwise.
- The records listed for each wrestler come directly from nwcaonline.com. Most of them seem to be accurate, but if there was nothing listed or the record simply didn’t seem right, I listed it as “N/A.”
Here we go…
Division 1
99
1. Nick Barbaria, New Rochelle (23-4, 8 pins)
2. Kevin Rodriguez, Port Chester (23-5, 14 pins)
3. Alfredo Olmedo, Arlington (31-2, 13 pins)
4. Jay Albis, John Jay-EF (19-6, 12 pins)
5. Tyler Gonska, Brewster (33-3, 14 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Byram Hills’ John Errico and Fox Lane’s Brendon Fay… Three of Barbaria’s losses came at 106 pounds, and the other in the ESC final… He’s undoubtedly the man here after placing third in the section last season and second at the ESC… He pinned Rodriguez… Rodriguez majored Olmedo… Olmedo beat Albis twice, Gonska (2-0) and Errico (5-2)… Albis beat Gonska three times; also has wins over K-Rod (6-4) and Fay (7-5)… I’m giving K-Rod the second spot because he placed at the ESC and has the most experience.
106
1. Mike Parise, Brewster (42-2, 23 pins)
2. Blaise Benderoth, North Rockland (25-2, 11 pins)
3. Nick Tolli, Arlington (27-4, 13 pins)
4. Alex Oliveto, Suffern (20-5, 13 pins)
5. Mike DiNardo, Mahopac (22-8, 14 pins)
Notes: Also look out for New Rochelle’s Brian Ferrandi and Clarkstown South’s Alex Notaro… Parise has not lost in Section 1, including a win over Tolli (4-2) and a pin of Ferrandi… He’ll be looking to qualify for states for the third time… Benderoth’s only loss other than at the ESC came against Pearl River’s John Muldoon (who is going 113)… Benderoth beat Tolli at the ESC (13-7)… Tolli beat Ferrandi (7-0); also pinned Notaro and DiNardo.
113
1. Dylan Realbuto, Somers (N/A)
2. Alex Delacruz, Ossining (22-4, 11 pins)
3. John Muldoon, Pearl River (19-2, 5 pins)
4. Troy Feniger, North Rockland (24-5, 11 pins)
5. Zach Boker, Mahopac (23-8, 19 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Clarkstown South’s Brian McLiverity and Scarsdale’s Mike Hodges… Realbuto is the favorite here after placing second at states last season at 99, and second at the ESC this season… He beat Delacruz at the ESC (8-6)… Muldoon beat Feniger at the Shoreline (9-7) and pinned McLiverity.
120
1. A.J. Barbaria, New Rochelle (19-6, 7 pins)
2. Liam Erickson, Brewster (33-3, 18 pins)
3. Adit Thakur, Nyack (25-1, 17 pins)
4. Jake DiMarsico, North Rockland (24-6, 5 pins)
5. Jimmy Kaishian, Yorktown (26-5, 18 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is RC Ketcham’s Mark Settembrino… Barbaria beat Thakur in the Shoreline final (9-6)… He has no losses in Section 1 this season… Thakur pinned DiMarsico at the Kohl… DiMarsico beat Kaishian at the Kohl (6-2)… Erickson and Kaishian have wins over Settembrino… Kaishian also has a notable win over Delacruz.
126
1. Sam Speno, Fox Lane (32-1, 16 pins)
2. Matt Caputo, North Rockland (27-7, 18 pins)
3. Jon Russo, Horace Greeley (28-7, 5 pins)
4. Gavin Menchel, Harrison (23-6, 16 pins)
5. Tommy Gonska, Brewster (32-4, 17 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Mahopac’s Mike Camastro and RC Ketcham’s Danny Murphy… Speno looks like he has a strong shot for a state title after placing second at 112 last season… He teched Menchel… Caputo’s most notable win is a major decision over Nanuet’s Anthony Calvano (No. 1 in D2 at 120)… Russo beat Menchel (7-0) and Gonska (3-1)… Menchel beat Gonska (11-3)… Murphy has come on strong of late, including a win over Russo (7-4).
132
1. Danny Ventura, Fox Lane (32-4, 23 pins)
2. John Tambunting, Scarsdale (31-5, 14 pins)
3. Colby Kash, Clarkstown North (19-4, 12 pins)
4. Mike Morabito, RC Ketcham (22-11, 7 pins)
5. Jimmy Duncan, Brewster (29-7, 14 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Suffern’s Dan DeStefano and Hen Hud’s Kevin McDermott… Ventura is the clear favorite after placing second in the state at 119 last season; he placed fourth at the ESC… He pinned Morabito and McDermott… Tambunting beat Kash (10-5)… Kash pinned Morabito in the Beacon tourney finals… Morabito beat Duncan twice.
138
1. Tom Grippi, Fox Lane (31-3, 18 pins)
2. Jake Srednicki, Mahopac (25-5, 13 pins)
3. Charlie Garcia, Tappan Zee (27-2, 21 pins)
4. Gino Gioielli, Brewster (29-4, 9 pins)
5. Angel Santos, Arlington (18-6, 4 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Beacon’s Christian Wassweiler… Grippi beat Srednicki (6-5) at the Mahopac Duals… He also pinned Wassweiler and teched Garcia… Srednicki placed sixth at the ESC… Garcia beat Santos (9-3)… Santos beat Wassweiler (12-11)… Gioielli hasn’t seen any of these guys.
145
1. Dale White, John Jay-EF (27-2, 14 pins)
2. Mike Caputo, North Rockland (27-3, 13 pins)
3. Joe Mastro, Yorktown (30-2, 19 pins)
4. Giancarlo Morreale, Fox Lane (26-4, 9 pins)
5. Josh Perlmutter, Hen Hud (14-3, 9 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Carmel’s Chris Pecora and Clarkstown North’s Ryan Becker… I believe that you could make the argument that this may be the deepest weight class in the section (which surely has to do with guys coming down to avoid B-Real at 152)… White placed second at the ESC, and Caputo placed fourth… White pinned Mastro and beat Morreale (6-3)… Caputo and Mastro each pinned Perlmutter… Caputo pinned Becker… Mastro majored Pecora… Morreale beat Perlmutter (4-2)… Perlmutter beat Pecora (6-3) and Becker (6-5)… Pecora beat Becker in the Beacon finals (7-4).
152
1. Brian Realbuto, Somers (N/A)
2. Ben Miller, Mamaroneck (30-2, 21 pins)
3. Brad Marvin, RC Ketcham (28-13, 9 pins)
4. Desmond Djekovic, Tappan Zee (26-4, 13 pins)
5. Kyle McAlpin, Brewster (32-10, 14 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is John Jay-EF’s Aaron Johnson… As a two-time state champ, Realbuto is undoubtedly the man here… He pinned Miller with three seconds remaining on Dec. 2… Marvin is 2-1 vs. McAlpin… He also beat Djekovic in the Beacon tourney final (7-2)… McAlpin and Johnson split (McAlpin won most recent meeting).
160
1. Matt Pasqualini, Fox Lane (32-4, 23 pins)
2. Phil Siegel, Hen Hud (22-2, 10 pins)
3. Nick Giella, Suffern (23-3, 13 pins)
4. DeVante Harrell, Ossining (20-3, 13 pins)
5. Aaron Gallagher, Mahopac (15-5, 14 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Arlington’s Anthony Scott… Pasqualini beat Siegel at Shoreline (8-5)… Pasqualini placed second at 145 last season, while Siegel placed second at 152, so they form a pretty clear-cut top two… Pasqualini placed fifth at the ESC… Siegel beat Giella at the Kohl tourney (11-7).
170
1. Steven Sabella, Yorktown (30-1, 17 pins)
2. Brendan Nunziata, Arlington (23-5, 12 pins)
3. Aaron Butler, New Rochelle (14-5, 4 pins)
4. Jack Braun, Scarsdale (31-2, 14 pins)
5. Brett Perry, John Jay-EF (27-8, 9 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Brewster’s Harry Erickson… Sabella beat Nunziata (3-2), Braun (7-1) and Perry (2-1)… Nunziata beat Butler in OT at the Shoreline… To be fair, four of Butler’s losses came on injury defaults, and the fifth came against Nunziata when he continued wrestling after his right shoulder popped out. At full strength, he would be the favorite as a defending champ at 160, but he has had an ongoing shoulder issue… Butler beat Braun and majored Erickson… Perry beat Erickson twice.
182
1. Jacob Berkowitz, Scarsdale (38-2, 12 pins)
2. Thomas Murray, Yorktown (29-2, 15 pins)
3. Mike Rosenthal, John Jay (28-7, 18 pins)
4. Michael Amato, Beacon (24-6, 13 pins)
5. A.J. Alvarez, Carmel (20-8, 8 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Somers’ Jason DiBenedetto… Berko is the clear favorite after winning a section title at 171 last season… Murray beat Alvarez (6-3) and pinned Amato; he’s also beaten DiBenedetto three times… Rosenthal is 2-1 vs. Alvarez… Amato beat Alvarez at the Beacon tourney (3-1)… Alvarez and Rosenthal each beat DiBendetto… DiBenedetto beat Amato (8-6).
195
1. Mike Spinelli, Mahopac (32-3, 26 pins)
2. Nick Giancaspro, Somers (N/A)
3. Deondre Pierce, Beacon (26-2, 15 pins)
4. Scott Wymbs, Horace Greeley (30-1, 12 pins)
5. Paul Okeke, Clarkstown South (17-6, 8 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Ossining’s Trent Lofaro… Spinelli established himself as the favorite with a fifth place finish at the ESC, where he beat Nanuet’s Dan Breit (No. 1 in D2 at 195)… Spinelli and Giancaspro each pinned Pierce… Spinelli also pinned Lofaro… Pierce beat Wymbs in the Beacon tourney finals (4-3)… Giancaspro (6-4), Pierce (3-1) and Wymbs (4-2) each beat Lofaro.
220
1. Dom DeVita, Somers (N/A)
2. Tyler Lilly, New Rochelle (23-4, 10 pins)
3. Bryan Burger, Suffern (18-2, 9 pins)
4. Justin Conahan, Arlington (15-1, 11 pins)
5. Dan Clune, Fox Lane (26-6, 15 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Tappan Zee’s Chris McGann… DeVita beat Lilly at the ESC in OT (4-3)… He also beat Clune (6-1)… Lilly beat Conahan (5-1), McGann (8-1) and Clune (6-4)… Burger pinned McGann… He has no losses to a Section 1 opponent.
285
1. Sean Barry, Hen Hud (25-1, 14 pins)
2. David Varian, Yorktown (23-4, 9 pins)
3. Andriy Lypchuk, Fox Lane (25-7, 19 pins)
4. Michael Manni, Tappan Zee (21-7, 12 pins)
5. Tyler Vanderline, RC Ketcham (26-9, 14 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Beacon’s Thomas Korzewinski and Sleepy Hollow’s Frank Curnaj… Barry pinned Lypchuk, Vanderline and Korzewinski… He also beat Manni twice… Barry and Varian split this season, and although Varian’s win is more recent, Barry has the more impressive overall body of work… Varian pinned Vanderline, Korzewinski and Curnaj… After the top two, it’s pretty wide open… Lypchuk pinned Manni… Manni pinned Vanderline and Korzewinski at the Beacon tourney… Vanderline pinned Korzewinski… Korzewinski pinned Lypchuk.
Division 2
99
1. Tyler Aslanian, Edgemont (24-6, 13 pins)
2. Joe Dillon, Nanuet (23-6, 12 pins)
3. Andrew Barsuch, Croton-Harmon (30-9, 22 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Hastings’ Nick Wilt… This is a very interesting weight class… Aslanian beat Dillon (7-4)… Aslanian and Barsuch split (Aslanian won most recent match)… Dillon is the defending champ here and placed eighth this season at the ESC.
106
1. Vinny Skokos, Nanuet (24-8, 10 pins)
2. Sky Korek, Edgemont (21-8, 10 pins)
3. Jonah Gerstel, Ardsley (N/A)
Notes: Another name to watch is Irvington’s Tyler Wexler… As a freshman in his first season in the lineup, Skokos has emerged as the favorite. Some of his notable wins include decisions over N. Barbaria (No. 1 in D1 at 99) and Oliveto (No. 4 in D1 at 106)… Skokos pinned Korek… Korek and Gerstal each pinned Wexler.
113
1. Trey Aslanian, Edgemont (32-1, 18 pins)
2. Stephen Paternostro, Pleasantville (26-6, 16 pins)
3. Stephen Samolsky, Ardsley (19-3, 16 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Putnam Valley’s Adam Mirabal… Aslanian is the clear favorite after placing second in the state last season at 103… He has notable wins over Muldoon (No. 3 in D1 at 113) and Feniger (No. 4 in D1 at 113).
120
1. Anthony Calvano, Nanuet (13-3, 10 pins)
2. D.J. Frederich, Croton-Harmon (29-5, 16 pins)
3. Josh Dooz, Dobbs Ferry (27-6, 12 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Edgemont’s Max Abramsky… Calvano is a multiple state qualifier, but he’s missed time with various ailments… Frederich has come on strong, most notably splitting with Delacruz (No. 2 in D1 at 113). You could easily make a case for him to be No. 1… Calvano’s most notable win came vs. J. DiMarsico (No. 4 in D1 at 120)… Frederich pinned Dooz and Abramsky.
126
1. Drew Longo, Ardsley (22-3, 13 pins)
2. David Occhipinti, Croton-Harmon (28-3, 19 pins)
3. Jimmy Kyreakedes, Dobbs Ferry (9-4, 8 pins)
Notes: This weight class is absolutely loaded. Kyreakedes placed at the state level last season, which tells you how talented this top three is. All three won section titles last season… Longo beat Occhipinti (7-1) and Kyreakedes (7-6)… Occhipinti has gone 132 most of the season, but he’s listed at 126 and wrestled there at the ESC. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him jump up to 132 for sectionals, where he would have an easier path to a section title… He beat Kyreakedes (8-7)… Kyreakedes recently returned from injury, and didn’t quite look 100 percent at the Kohl tourney.
132
1. Matt Dillon, Nanuet (21-8, 6 pins)
2. Chris Bruno, Putnam Valley (22-12, 12 pins)
3. Colin Hopkins, Edgemont (14-9, 9 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Pleasantville’s Graham Williamson… If no one else bumps up, Dillon is the favorite after placing second at 119 last season… He majored Hopkins… Bruno beat Williamson (12-6).
138
1. Dean Rogener, Westlake (N/A)
2. Peter Berman, Edgemont (17-18, 6 pins)
3. Kyle Kelvas, Putnam Valley (18-15, 11 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Irvington’s Drew Cohen and Croton-Harmon’s J.P. O’Malley… Rogener recently returned from injury… He pinned Kelvas earlier in the season, and also has a notable win over M. Dillon (3-0)… Berman beat Cohen twice… Berman has gone through a much tougher schedule than any other wrestler in this class… Kelvas beat Cohen (7-1) and O’Malley (3-1)… Cohen and O’Malley split (O’Malley won most recent meeting).
145
1. Brett Pastore, Irvington (19-4, 11 pins)
2. Jack McCormack, Edgemont (19-9, 6 pins)
3. Johnny Martin, Croton-Harmon (26-8, 17 pins)
Notes: Also look out for Hastings’ Brandon Abrahante and Westlake’s Nick O’Halloran… This is one of the deeper weight classes in D2… Pastore is the favorite after placing second at 130 last season (he lost to eventual state champ Ryan Osleeb in the final)… Pastore beat McCormack twice, Martin (7-0), and Abrahante by pin… McCormack beat Abrahante (5-2).
152
1. Scott Porter, Pawling (29-2, 25 pins)
2. Edgar Solis, Westlake (18-7, 6 pins)
3. Ross Kantor, Edgemont (14-11, 13 pins)
Notes: Solis is a defending champ at 145, but Porter pinned him earlier this season… Porter split with Miller (No. 2 in D1 at 152)… Notable wins for Solis include Harrell (No. 4 in D1 at 160) and splitting with Djekovic (No. 4 in D1 at 152)… This pretty much looks like a two-man race.
160
1. Mike Boyle, Dobbs Ferry (17-1, 9 pins)
2. Mike Buhlman, Nanuet (22-11, 7 pins)
3. Peter Salzarulo, Pleasantville (20-10, 11 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Edgemont’s Oliver Oks, who is expected to be back from injury in time for sectionals… None of these four have wrestled each other, except when Buhlmann beat Oks in the Section 1 Dual Meet championship by injury default… I had Oks ranked No. 1 in the beginning of the season, so I expect him to be a factor… Boyle has a notable win over Pastore.
170
1. John Messinger, Putnam Valley (N/A)
2. Peter Smith, Nanuet (14-15, 5 pins)
3. Constantine Coffinas, Westlake (13-8, 5 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Edgemont’s Jason Worobow, whose status is still up in the air for sectionals as he is dealing with an ongoing shoulder issue… This weight class is pretty much wide open, but Messinger did place third at 171 last season… He recently returned to the lineup after missing time earlier in the season… Smith majored Coffinas.
182
1. Oliver Mold, Pawling (27-2, 17 pins)
2. Kevin Brundage, Nanuet (22-8, 12 pins)
3. Chris Kim, Edgemont (13-10, 8 pins)
Notes: Mold is a heavy favorite here after winning a title at 171 last season… He has notable wins over Murray (No. 2 in D1 at 182), Kraft (No. 2 in D2 at 195) and Deleon (No. 3 in D2 at 195).
195
1. Dan Breit, Nanuet (32-4, 12 pins)
2. Chris Kraft, Croton-Harmon (27-4, 14 pins)
3. Dennis Deleon, Dobbs Ferry (20-5, 9 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Irvington’s Kevin Degnan… Breit is the slight favorite in a very deep weight class… He placed second at 189 last season, and placed sixth at the ESC this season… He has notable wins over Kornberg (No. 1 in D2 at 220) and Okeke (No. 5 in D1 at 195)… Kraft and Deleon split (Kraft won more recent meeting)… Kraft and Degnan split (Kraft won more recent meeting)… Deleon beat Degnan twice.
220
1. Danny Kornberg, Edgemont (34-9, 21 pins)
2. Quentin Bailey, Hastings (17-3, 7 pins)
3. Alek Pavloff, Croton-Harmon (21-10, 14 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Nanuet’s Sergio Ventura… He’s wrestled more matches at 220, but is listed at 195, so he could be a factor in either weight class… Kornberg beat Ventura (5-0) and pinned Pavloff… He’s the favorite after placing fourth at 215 last season… Bailey is the great unknown because he hasn’t seen any of these guys.
285
1. Obum Anyichie, Pleasantville (27-2, 11 pins)
2. Chris DiNardo, Irvington (N/A)
3. Anthony DiNardo, Irvington (15-7, 5 pins)
Notes: Another name to watch is Westlake’s Mike Manzo… Anyichie lost to C. DiNardo in last season’s section final, but he has beaten him twice in the past week and a half… He also pinned A. DiNardo twice, Manzo once and has a win over Lypchuk (No. 3 in D1 at 285)… C. DiNardo missed almost the entire season with an injury. He recently returned, but doesn’t seem to be wrestling at the level he was at last season… Anthony is Chris’ younger brother.
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Not bad at all good work. Just a few note’s Jimenez split with Tambunting at 132 he pinned Tambunting and lost 2-1. He has 2 losses this year to Morgan from Columbia and Tambunting.
Duran of mamaroneck is 27-3 (22 Pins) beat solis of Westlake who beat Harrel of Ossining. Jiminez from sleepy hollow should be ranked at 132. Good rankings though
Even though Anychie got pinned by Barry for his only loss of the season. I still think he is the best two 285er in the section. He beat Varian once and the defending d two champ twice
Is N/A a nice way of saying their coach hasnt entered their info into the database?
out of the people ranked first in the section both large school and small school who can we expect to come close to state championships
Paul Okeke, Clarkstown South, defeated Burger of Suffern last night 3-1.
people who could win states D1:
99: Nick Barbaria definitely could place top 3
106: Parise could win states
113: D. Realbuto could win state
126: Speno could win states
132: I think Ventura could get top 4, nick kelly and Hudson finals
145: based on their matches with Kloc, White and Caputo could place, but I still give 1st place to Kloc
152: B. Realbuto will beat Palacio
182: Berkowitz could win states
Jiminez should be mentioned as someone to watch, but I don’t think he should be ranked. He’s had three loses, one to Morgan (Columbia), Tambunting (Scarsdale), and Santucci (Yorktown). He’s had a good year with an easy schedule. His only quality win was against Tambunting at Yonkers.
Same goes for Dion Duran, his one quality win was against Solis early in the season. He’s had quite an easy schedule.
Paul Okeke from South beat Bryan Burger from Suffern 3-1 and Sean Maloney from South beat Scott Porter from Pawling 7-3
Guys, read the bullet points he posted. Just because A beat b, and b beat c, doesnt mean A beats c. Ask yourself, Have they beat anyone who is ranked, and If so have they lost to anyone who isnt ranked. Also If they are 32-4 and have no real competition they probably arent ranked.
How do some of these kids get so many matches and not really wrestle anyone of note but save a few? I am not trying to question what old skool is saying. I agree with him. When you go onto the data base some of these kids have 30+ wins and you look at the competition and shake your head.
This is not about any wrestler, they are off limits, it is about the mindset of some of these coaches. Do they make these schedules to make sure a decent wrestler has a good record ? Does that hurt them in the long run come divisionals and sectionals?
Just my 2 cents.
Vince, keep up the good work.
30+ isn’t fair but 25 certainly is.
Each Team is allowed
8 Duals (1 point each)
6 Tournaments (2 point each)
Max of 20 points
Of the eight duals 4 have to be League matches
4 are cross over (decided pre season by the ADs “with or without coaches input”)
Of the 6 Tournaments “Only Two can be 2 Day Dual Tourneys- ie 9 or 10 matches)
The remaining four “may” be single day duals (4 or 5 matches)
or a traditional tourney (2 and out / 3 or 4 matches to place)
add the Section Duals and that’s how you have wrestlers with between 30 to 40 bouts before divisionals
When the seeding is done next week-
Prestige points (placing last year at DIV-Sect-or State)
Caliber of competition points (wins- loses against Prestige Point wrestlers)
This years win losses calibration
Not every team or wrestler gets to go to Eastern States
The teams(wrestlers) that travel to Long Island and upstate will pick up Caliber of competition point against opponents no one around Sect I has heard of
It also why Coaches that have not put their results(or wait until last minute) into NWCA- risk challenges at the seed meeting (mysterious wins… mysterious caliber points)
Hope that helps Grappling
PRC E8,
It helps a lot. thanks.
The change from traditional tournaments to dual meet tournaments is the biggest change in the number of matches. My team does two 2 day dual meet tournaments, 1 one day dual, and 3 traditional tournaments. From 4 or these tournaments the kids get 30 matches. As prc said the rest are assigned. By the time sectionals come around Its nearly 50 matches. Records can be tricky, it all depends on competition. Last year we had a kid in the section semifinals with 20 losses. 17 were to all section kids. He beat 5 all section kids, and was seeded high due to his competition schedule. There is no right or wrong way, Just have to figure out whats best for your kids. Best of luck to everyone these next few weeks, section 1 wrestling has come so far Its amazing.
VINCE a great deal of work, very comprehensive. There will always be some kids under the radar that will impress in post season. This is a big section and some unknowns will place, not win but place at sectionals. In all you did a great job.
PRC E8, great info.
Grappling, records and seedings really mean nothing. This is wrestling and to ultimately be a Champion you have to beat the best come February. That is why this sport is so intense. Seedings and rankings make for good conversation but all is ultimately settled on the mat.
But I have read enough of your posts to know that you know that very well.
Good luck to all grapplers next week.
Grapevine,
You are spot on. I love this time of year. You get to see those who over achieve and those who under. Although I love rankings at the end of the year. Prior to the weekend before divisions.There is always someone who gets fired up about not being mentioned and makes a name for them selves.
Good luck to all
Nice rankings, February will be exciting.
The best beat the rest
After viewing these ranking you still have MUCH to learn about this sport. You are favoring records wayyyy to much in these rankings and you fail to take into account strength of schedule. A lot of these guys you have ranked have inflated records because they face poor competition all season. When seeds are configured for sections points are awarded for strength of schedule. Another issue is that you have ranked some weight classes based on if a wrestler has finished higher at a tourney than another, even if they did not wrestle. Ex. is Mike Caputo. If you watch both Caputo and WHite, wrestle it is hard to argue that Mike is the top wrestler at this weight. Plus Mike has many more quality wins over much better opponents this season. ANother example is Gino Gioelli. You even said it yourself that he hasnt beaten any ranked kids, yet he get the higher ranking than returning all section wreslter in Santos? Why? because he has a better record? ANother example is Miller. WHo has he beaten that he deserves to be ranked 2nd in the section over the likes of a returning all section wrestler in Marvin? At the end of the day my point is your rankings need to be based on the WRESTLING not the RECORD. My advice to you is that you should consort with someone who has a more thorough understanding of wrestling and the wrestlers in our area because you make rankings. This may come off as harsh but I have been following your articles all season long and while they are not horrible, your lack of knowledge of the sport shines through. I must commend your efforts and your hard work at giving this sport more recognition than it has gotten in previous years, because really at the end of the day its about the kids and not about the journalism. But my challenge to you is, if youre going to be writing the blog and articles next season I challenge you to learn much more about this sport and the individuals in this area. Overall, I must say your are doing a good job, these are my only real complaints. A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone.
Hey Vince how about the seeding for the Rockland Counties this weekend any way of getting your hands on that?
Dont worry about rankings and strength of schedule, wait till seedings come out for sectionals. Competition is What make your seed, not record. Id rather be seeded 2 at sectionals and ranked 5th, than vice versa. Rankings get conversation going and more interest in the sport.
Much to Learn,
“After viewing these ranking you still have MUCH to learn about this sport.”
Enlighten us. Where would you make changes?
Will my team get a BCS bowl game this year?
I just updated my nwca records like many coaches are doing now. Rankings will be more realistic after the Rockland Counties and the Super 16. There are many wrestlers out there you have not heard of yet so don’t set your rankings in stone.
Coach Rogers
Hi Vincent:
152lb rankings
Brewster’s McAlpin beat Ketcham’s Marvin two out of three matches this season – you have McAlpin #5 and Marvin #3?
McAlpin L 5 – 0 on 12/14/2011 (160lb)
McAlpin W 2 – 0 on 12/17/2011 (160lb)
McAlpin W 11 – 4 on 1/7/2012 (152lb)
That is correct, i think he read the results wrong. He said marvin won 2 of 3. Put mcalprin 3 drop everyone else down 1 spot.
What do you do when you see that someone entered incorrect information on ncw online? For example one of the kids didn’t win a match and it said he did. The kid he lost too team doesn’t enter anything for the team so no one knows?
I would also like to know who is seeded for the counties this weekend?
“Doesn’t no January 26th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
What do you do when you see that someone entered incorrect information on ncw online? For example one of the kids didn’t win a match and it said he did. The kid he lost too team doesn’t enter anything for the team so no one knows?”
That is what is going to make the seed meetings next week interesting (and long)
It is the reason for making the NWCA system mandatory
The representive from that team need to be prepared to back up their wrestlers record & caliber of compitition points. (mysterious wins -forgotten losses)
Not to mention the 50 % rule (ie that a wrestlers has weighed in at least 50% of weigh ins- not bouts- at the weight he wants to compete at divisionals)
Guys,
A couple of things…
1. Whoever made the point about Edwin Jiminez from Sleepy Hollow made a valid one. Looking back at his body of work, he probably deserved some mention. That’s the nature of this type of thing. I’ve gone through hundreds of wrestlers, but it’s impossible to hit everyone. As always, I encourage you guys to bring up names that you think may have been left out.
2. As for Brewster’s Kyle McAlpin, he did in fact beat Ketcham’s Brad Marvin in two out of three matches. I don’t know if that change was recently made, or if I just misread it when I originally looked.
3. Those of you who are asking for seeds for the RCCs and the Super 16, those won’t be determined until tonight. Once I receive them, I will post them.
Much To Learn: As for Miller, he has had a quality season. He has beaten Porter and Solis. Marvin has had an OK season, but has no quality wins. Also, since when do we rank wrestlers (towards the end of the season) off of how they did at sectionals last year? And a correction for both Marvin and Santos, neither of them was an all section wrestler.
Vincent, one point 2, it was not a recent change, you misread it. Mistakes happen, your job is not an easy one. Keep up the good work!
Santos and marvin placed in sectionals, not all section. Ps marvin Beat shredniki, not quality enough for you?
Rankings are not seeds.
No matter how well rankings are done, people will tend to pick them apart, especially towards
favorite wrestlers, school mates ect.
Doing research for 15 weight classes is a time consuming job, and small mistakes will happen, a
few placements will be off, and a wrestler or two who are deserving will get lost. Thats what editing is for
PS…I did’t see Vincent get carried away by records. On the contrary, I saw many at the top have inferior records to some below him. The wrestlers like Speno and Parise should be at the top regardless of their gaudy records
cya
Watch out for Muldoon at 113- My sleeper pick
dont get too fired up over rankings, saw some of the guys ranked in the original D2 rankings (i know harder to rank) wrestling at JV sectionals today
You might want to watch out for north rockland taking the title here as a team. They have their tree top wrestlers all seeded 2nd( Benderoth, and the Caputo brothers) who could do some damage in the finals. Fox lane is the favorite with four guys predicted to take it all. This will be a great February.
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