It’s funny when people still vote in the old poll even after the answer has been determined. The last poll asked who would go furthest in states. Turned out to be Brundage and Realbuto. Now, those two were doing well in the poll anyway, along with Joe Grippi. But after states was over people kept voting for them. I don’t get it. Maybe I’ll start telling bartenders that I have a hunch Obama’s going to win the election.
This week’s poll question is more subjective. In your opinion, which of the 36 wrestlers at states most exceeded the expectation you had for them? It doesn’t have to be a top-3 finisher. Doesn’t even have to be a guy who made Day 2. If you thought Joe Hauser wouldn’t win a match, for example, maybe he most exceeded expectations just by going 2-2.
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You have to go with Sam Speno. For a wildcard to make the semis and place 5th as a freshman is a tremendous achievement. I’d throw Ryan Tompkins in there as well for the same argument except he’s quite established already. Remember he’ll break the Section 1 record for wins next year, then Realbuto will take it from Ryan.
I was thinking SS as well
That win vs Barbeto showed a lot.
cya
Yeah Speno did good in a loaded weight classes especially considering it was 96. Fox Lane goes to some good tournaments but competition like that is hard to find at that weight class.
But i added Joey Grippi, who Jake you forgot again lol, I think there were more high hopes for Joey than high expectations, I dont know how many people expected him to beat Cody Ruggirello after losing to him earlier this season great job to get to the finals, when the semifinal could have gone another way and we would worry about wrestleback situation, I can only imagine what a semi-final loss at States does to the ticker….
Also the great job Lenzi did after several people on here said he might have the least chance to repeat as a state champ, well he at least repeated as a state finalist. It wasnt any easy route at 135. Yeah he got his pin in the first round but him and champion Dutton had their toughest matches in the quarters, Lenzi beats Ligouri which no one but Lenzi and his followers probably thought could happen. The only other guy to even give Ligouri a match is Halladay who takes 4th after losing to Dutton and also running through the cosilation rounds before losing to Ligouri. Thats some all-state group for Lenzi to wrestle his way into with Dutton, Ligouri, Halladay, not to mention the Div II guys Ekstrom and Paddock, yikes thats some group, imagine if they did a unified state tournament, all those guys at 1 weight quite a few state champs in there, Lenzi is the underdog he only has 1
you guyes are not giving any credit to Udit! After loosing to Lenzi in the Semi he lost to Halladay by a score of 4 to 3 in the last seconds of the match and that is due to the fact that his middle fingre was swollen and he could not hold him since halladay was twisting the same finger. Keep in mind all these big winners are wrestling since they were 5 or 6 years old but Udit started wrestling when he was in 8th grade and seriously started training since Dec. 2007 as there was no body to guide him. He comes from Nyack High scholl which does not have a regular wrestling programme. Before, you start heeping praise on your favorite kid it is always good to look into the background of each kid and give them there due. They all are great kids but some of them never boast of there achievements and show boat and take win and losses with humility and Udit is one of those kids. Same way you are forgetting about Ramos who took third possition by narrowly lossing his semi match by one point.
speno did a great job,although he got a amazing draw, kramer prob got the worst draw of all had to wrestle max soria who took 3ed (a animal). i heard the kid who speno wrestled in the quarters kramer pined earlier in the year.
ryan tompkins,udit,joey grippi
1.Exceeding expectation, Ryan Tompkins. He placed high and beat his only losses in section 1 (Speno) on the way.
2.If Ramos chose neutral vs the section 5 kid in the semis we may have had another finalist and possible champ.
3.Grippi’s gator roll to win against Ruggirello, big upset.
4.Udit got the break where he needed and capitalized versus Lashoway, tough opponent.
5.Murayama wrestled tough and gave Heyman a match in the finals, damn back points.
Those are my top 5 for exceeding expectations. In fact, the whole section 1 large school team exceeded expectations by placing 3rd, great job guys.
Coach Rogers
Clay Nievert looked real good for never being on a state team he rose to the ocassion and he definatly exceded expectations. Not his own of course but based on his past he really came on this year and especially at states.
But the winner has to be Justis. He actually beat Keith. Keith had a clear clasp just prior to Flamio’s reversal which gives him the 5-4 win. With two refs it is hard to believe they missed the call. iT was crystal clear. Few would have been able to predict that after Eastern States. It just goes to show that Flamio is one of the best competitors section 1 has ever seen. Last year he defied the critics and again this year he raise the his level in the big matches.
JD
Holy smokes! Praise god!
Section 1 did good at states…!!!
MVP: Flamio
RT,
Ramos was one of the pre-determined choices for over-achievers by Jake. And who has background information available to them on every wrestler ?? You made some points but the way you went about it will make everyone discredit what you said. The way you went about it makes me want to believe even more that Udit got lucky in his matches more than anything esle… with the penalty points getting to OT and all…..
how about this for exceeding expectations, Peter Grippi ? is that the 112 one? its confusing well the 112,119,125 one because they moved him all over this year… the one who got to the 112 final over Srednicki,Olivetto, and a few other wrestlers ranked above him, don’t think Fox Lane was carrying off his success. I was part of a very successful high school program and when the guys who werent the top flight (for them Sam, S.Rod, Joey, Luke) its a huge lift, great job by the section 1 team I agree with Coach Rogers on that, but i still see something being are downfall.
As he said for Genta – damn backpoints. How many section 1 wrestlers were scoring near fall points ??? so many wrestlers in the section are ok with just taking a guy down and letting him up, well when you get to the state level like i said a couple months back, the best wrestlers in the state can’t be let up, a takedown has to be worth more than 2 pts. Especially if you are down, you cant just take a guy down and hang on, or take him down and let him up, these kids are too good on their feet.
Here is the info on the Cifuni tournament this Sunday March 8th:
http://68.192.133.253:8000/Desktop/kids_club_tourn.pdf
Peter Grippi was hugh for FL in Sectionals. I know he was
very upset with the finals, but he was MVW for FL that
weekend.
cya
to section 1 win some sense good wrestlers wont give up backpoints
to section 1 win some sense good wrestlers wont give up backpoints to a kid that isnt 10 times as good as them if u know what im trying to say
i dont think i know what you are saying, and i dont think you knew what i was saying, you are saying Genta was 10 times worse than the kid? so backpoints killed them ? to many wrestlers in section 1 can’t score from top, granted thats the hardest place to score but thats where other sections get an advantage on us. Also we have gotten a lot better at not being taken down, but at the cost of being quick on takedowns, the rest of the state seemed so much more complete with their neutral attacks, less wasted energy, more deliberate shots, just an observation, just my opinion, take it as you will
Jake
Please tell me you are doing the baseball blog this year! You did a phenominal job with teh wrestling.
Well back to the topic on hand is the wrestler who past expectations. Tomkins and a close seconded S Speno to be a wild card and place is incredible and they are our section MVW’s
Hey Booch,
What happened at States that LaPorta beat Garcia by forfeit? Did Garcia get hurt?
Section 1 w/some sense
I agree with your observations. The most obvious example was Osleebs match with Tyler Marlow (All state/all american). Osleeb took him down within the first 10 seconds and than immediatly cut him,rather than trying to turn him or at least riding to take time off the clock. Marlow wrestled a much smarter match conservative match. Marlow kept him on the edge,while Osleeb was in 3 more times they always went out. At the end of the match it seemed he lost more for tacktics of,rather than wrestling. At state your need to wrestle well AND SMART.
a posted a comment on the other topic before by accident, Sam did a great job but he has 55% of the vote !!!! i mean this is insane, considering most polls come down to a couple % pts, he has a 40% lead on Ramos. Speno and Ramos are good wrestlers, i dont think they had big unexpected wins, same with Tompkins, one of the better section 1 wrestlers and had a better draw than Luke but i hear he wrestled a little better too, like i said in the other post i’m not taking away from these kids, most of section 1 really stepped it up. But i don’t think a lot of people expected Grippi to beat Codey and he did, in awesome fashion. I’m disappointed he didnt get more votes, but i’m glad i added him…
yeah the Laporta / Garcia situation is interesting … doesn’t say inj. def. or inj. forfeit ….
although they don’t always list that….I don’t remember seeing any others on the brackets, when they do list injury forfeits though, and something is listed as just a forfeit sometimes it means the wrestler was disqualified the round before, anyone see if Garcia blew up after his match ?? i have actually never seen him lose, so im not saying that he would, just wondering if he did …
Garcia was pinned in a tournament a few weeks ago by a wrestler outside of Section I.
From what I was told, Garcia was injured (possibly his ribs) during his first and only match. He then did not take the mat for the second match so it may go down as a medical forfeit.
thank you There
there you have it
i love how degle says that about flamio just so he can go back to his club
haha yes, i especially love the part at the end when he said PLEASE COME BACK JUSTICE….
c’mon hater …..
thanks for posttng the cifuni tourn on sunday3/8/09